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Posted 2006-08-19 13:17 (#39466 - in reply to #39449) Subject: RE: Mantas' historical catapult
Location: Barton Upon Humber
I think the cornerstone of theory that scalovians and nadrovians were Lithuanians are names of places - rivers, lakes, villages etc. For example - eastern yotvingians were exterminated and what' was left - Lithuanised. But we still enjoy lovely names of villages just some 30km from Kaunas - Ingavangis, not talking about Seirijai, Leipalingis, Veisejai, Kirsna, Seinai and many others. If Scalovians and nadrovians were prussians or western baltic tribes - could you point out at least one name within their boundaries that is clearly of western baltic origin?
Talking politically - we can claim these lands once belonged to Lithuania - otherwise why would Order asked Mindaugas to grant these lands to them? And if to follow up incognito theory - Latvia has no rights to Kurzeme, old Selonian lands or maybe even Zemgalia. As Latvian identity and language was built on ancient Latgalian dialect as I understand and gradualy all baltic tribes within Livonia became "Latvianised". What a injustice! Kurzeme never belonged to Latvian state until 1918 and greedy Latvians claimed it without any political or legal gound whatsoever! Latvia should be confined to boundaries of ancient Latgalian tribe