Posted 2009-12-16 04:52 (#73171 - in reply to #64352) Subject: RE: Prussian Folklore
Everything what you wrote is very interesting, could you put a photo of the ring?
Sources of XVII century mention that in east Prussia live real west Lithuanians having their pagan cult and traditions the same as in Great Lithuania, so the only possible variantion of Patrimpas could be Žemininkas, who is often replaced by sky god (similar to Christian). Despite this V. Toporov pointed that there is possibility that Žemininkas/Žemėpatis is Pats of Žemė (Husband of Earth, like Dyeus Pater and etc...), A. J. Greimas points that Patrimpas (similar to Žemininkas, Žemėpatis, Dimstipatis) is the same as Andojas, Numadievis (*Nunadėjas), G. Beresnevičius points that Andojas is sky god from aethiological and mythological sagas. So, these theories and researches let us believe, that cult of Patrimpas-kind god with his mediators - grassnakes exists in XVII ct. East Prussia, and why this shouldn't exist in mid 18th century?
Facts of Lithuanian ethnography show cult of non-christian agrarian sky god/demiurge cult in XIX-XXth. ct. Lithuania among peasants. Peasants interpret him as Christian god, but mythological contenct, functions, appearance in home rituals, even content and structure of prayers show that it is archaic Baltic folklore deity, who was not imported by Christianity, but just actualized by Christianity, as N. Vėlius points.
So, there is big possibility that you see on the ring god who belongs to Patrimpas category and is close to Christian god, because of Christian god syncretism with Žemėpatis (it is called Dievas in folk-sagas). Probably he inherited symbolical features as grain crown and youth.