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Posted 2009-09-30 14:45 (#69288 - in reply to #69265)
Subject: RE: witing - pirnas yra Jordanis (6 a. vidurys)


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Arūnas Armonas - 2009-09-30 10:47 AM

Vembras - 2009-09-29 3:45 PM

Gal būt galėtumėte pasidalinti šaltiniais? Domina pats pirmasis witting ar witing

 


Jordanis 309:

(309) When Evermud arrived, he pitched his camp by the town of Rhegium. He soon saw that his side was the weaker. Coming over with a few close and faithful followers to the side of the victor and willingly casting himself at the feet of Belisarius, he decided to serve the rulers of the Roman Empire. When the army of the Goths perceived this, they distrusted Theodahad and clamored for his expulsion from the kingdom and for the appointment as king of their leader Vitiges, who had been his armor bearer. 


Arūnai - Jordanis , kiek pamenu, nerašė tokia anglų kalba, kokia čia pateikiama citata. Ar įmanoma patalpinti originalo nuorašą?
Ir - o kur Tamsta pastebi , kad šie Vitiges yra prūsai? 


Witi + gais/ges/gis yra šiuo atveju grynai germaniškos kilmės šaknys, su prūsais nieko bendro neturinčios. Gais/ges/gis beto čia yra šaknis, o ne galūnė. Reikšmė kokia yra bijau suklysti, bet kažkada varčiau internete germanų kalbų etimologinį žodyna, atrodo yra "išmintimi sumanus", panašiai kitas gotiškas vardas Radagais yra "patarimu sumanus". Bet dėl šito galvos neguldau .

Originalo citata:

http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/iordanes1.html#LX
309 Vbi cum Evermud accessisset Regium oppidum, castra composuit. Nec mora deterioratam causam cernens suorum ad partes victoris paucis et fidelissimis famulis consciis movit, ultroque se Belesarii pedes advolvens Romani regni optat servire principibus. Quod Gothorum exercitus sentiens suspectum Theodahadum clamitat regno pellendum et sibi ductorem suum Vitiges, qui armiger eius fuerat, in rege levandum.
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