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incognito
Posted 2011-06-02 16:05 (#84696 - in reply to #84600)
Subject: RE: Historic rubbish from... Arūnas Armonas



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Mr., Arūnas Armonas, you are making the same mistake in the same theme. What you wrote is total off-topic, far away from the initial theme. It's a waste of time explain to you. Forumist Ibicus allready wrote where are doing mistake, but once again you writing nonsence in the same place:
http://forum.istorija.net/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=4733&mid=84157...

In the Tomas Baranauskas citation, everything is explained, simply you not realise where is a fact, where is an interpretation.
Įdomu, kad lenkų šaltiniai („Didžiosios Lenkijos kronika“) šiuo laikotarpiu neretai painioja prūsus ir lietuvius. Gali, pavyzdžiui, Mindaugą pavadinti prūsų karaliumi, o 1261 m. prūsų laimėto Pokarvių mūšio aprašyme mini ne prūsus, bet lietuvius.  

Here are facts. Is it so hard to understood? Poles not bordered with Lithuanians in that time, Old Prussian tribe - Yatvingians lived between Lithuanians and Poles, so naturally, everybody from north, north-east for Poles were "Prussians". It is incorect of course, but Poles did realised in such way.

Iš esmės visa sukilimo zona ir sukilėliai yra pasirengę įeiti arba jau yra įsijungę į bendrą Lietuvos kaip paskutinės ginančios instancijos sistemą. Tai irgi patvirtintų, kad pirmuoju sukilimo etapu vadovybė buvo Lietuvoje.  

Here is interpretation of Tomas Baranauskas. Baltophylic interpretations. Blaim him, not me.

As Ibicus wrote Mendowg is mentioned in 1219 treaty. Lithuania bordered with Ruthenia directly. So Ruthenians very well knew who were Lithuanians, who were Samogithians, and who Develtuvans (extinct tribe). In Hypatian codex:
http://imwerden.de/pdf/psrl_tom02_ipatjevskaya_letopis_1908.pdf - (4,4 MB) on page 503, clearly written that Mendowg is Lithuanian. What I am explaining should be known even to amateur, at least for person who knows Ruthenian. If you don't know Ruthenians language - you have nothing to do researching history of Lithuania, because Ruthenian was in use in Lithuania till 1697.

Edited by incognito 2011-06-02 16:17





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